Forwards 2016

[deadoralive]

There has been a little talk about F3. And for me, I'm leaning towards Sam Gray. Reasons are these.

1. Big finish last year could lead to continuation of form
2. Decreased interchanges and has ability to float into many different positions.
3. Port should be better than last year

Am I wrong? If so, why?

 

[Lowrider]

There has been a little talk about F3. And for me, I'm leaning towards Sam Gray. Reasons are these.

1. Big finish last year could lead to continuation of form
2. Decreased interchanges and has ability to float into many different positions.
3. Port should be better than last year

Am I wrong? If so, why?

Not saying he's a bad pick, but here's why I haven't picked him:
1) Only 3 big games there so small sample size, overall he had no sub-affected games so his average is his average. NAB he's only averaged 95 with high handball ratio and poor DE%. He's priced about 90 and that's about what I think he'll average, best-case 95 which doesn't seem enough for that price. Worst-case he averages 80-85.
2) True, but doesn't necessarily mean more scoring opportunity. There's plenty of Port guys who can go through the middle so he might spend a good percentage forward. When he's forward he's scoring is fairly poor and he doesn't hit the scoreboard much.
3) I think Port are about where they should be. Depending on luck they'll be just inside or just outside the 8.

That's just my thoughts anyway, as I said he's not a bad pick, but not for me this year.

 

[Tevez17]

I think Greene has Gray covered, better forward when he's playing there and better mid when he's playing there, but I'm not going with Greene at this stage either.

 

[tabs]

De Goey F3 atm for me as all my money is in my mids although not sold on Martin at F1

 

[Lowrider]

Wells is my F3 at present. Again, all the money is in the mids.

 

[smirski]

Dusty was the first picked for me this year - saw big potential to up his scoring to 115+ this year.

However, after last night he's almost out the door. Not related to his score, but more his mental state. He was clearly aggro last night and his scoring suffered. His Dad has been arrested and looks like he'll be deported, that's not going to go away any time soon and he's never been the most stable guy mentally. All of a sudden he's gone from the safest pick ever to incredibly risky and I don't think I can start him now.

Thoughts from the rest of you???

Against Carlton who they play first game Dusty has averaged below 60 only scoring 100 once in the last 3 years. Just an interesting stat

 

[massive]

I've now got a Crow locked in my forward line - Jarryd Lyons. $241k, more midfield minutes. Worn the green vest 9 times in 2015, without the vest last year he scored 46, 94, 105 and 67. The 46 came in round and the others when he returned to the side later in the year.

23yo, 5th season in the AFL, strong NAB form with 79, 77 and 98 from about 70% TOG in each. Reckon he might average 80 this year, might even average as Wells does and he's a litttle bit cheaper. He's very much locked in to my side.

In 2015 Lyons had the highest disp stat in the league for players who averaged less than 50% TOG.

 

[Tevez17]

Little worried about Hall all of a sudden, was thinking Swallow won't be back for a while O'Meara the same but just started to realize Ablett, Prestia & Lonergan, still have to come into that mid field & it's not like MIller, Rischitelli & Hallahan aren't going to spend some time in there.

 

[currymunchers]

Little worried about Hall all of a sudden, was thinking Swallow won't be back for a while O'Meara the same but just started to realize Ablett, Prestia & Lonergan, still have to come into that mid field & it's not like MIller, Rischitelli & Hallahan aren't going to spend some time in there.

My thoughts exactly. It's really hard to gauge how he's going to score with their midfielders back. I expect him to still be given plenty of midfield time in the early parts but when jaeger and swallow return will he be shuffled out? Would hate to have to trade him half way through the year because of a role change. That's the only thing holding him back

 

[BigKev]

Any love for N.Reiwoldt and L Franklin?

My team is pretty much settled, bar rookies...I'm looking at Roo. Had him for a week, then took him out.
I'm seriously looking to bring Roo back. Franklin not so much... but will consider him.
What do you guys think?

 

[Tevez17]

Any love for N.Reiwoldt and L Franklin?

My team is pretty much settled, bar rookies...I'm looking at Roo. Had him for a week, then took him out.
I'm seriously looking to bring Roo back. Franklin not so much... but will consider him.
What do you guys think?

Looks a man on the downward trend to me mate, if he was really under priced I'd consider it but not at a 90ave

 

[cactus]

Little worried about Hall all of a sudden, was thinking Swallow won't be back for a while O'Meara the same but just started to realize Ablett, Prestia & Lonergan, still have to come into that mid field & it's not like MIller, Rischitelli & Hallahan aren't going to spend some time in there.

You can make a case against basically every single forward line option this year, apart from Barlow and every has him. So the question is not whether Hall has a potential down side but whether or not you can find a couple of keepers with less downside (depending how many forwards your taking). Dusty could be one. Sam Gray could be one. Dollhouse maybe. Can't think of any others that aren't at least as much downside as Hall.
Swallow and Jaeger are a way off right? They could have more setbacks. Other Suns mids could get injured. Hall could step up and cement his claims to be a front line midfielder ahead of some off those others. Lonergan might lose midfield minutes before Hall. Signs seem to show Hall will start well. If things change later in the season deal with it then.

 

[Steve]

You can make a case against basically every single forward line option this year, apart from Barlow and every has him. So the question is not whether Hall has a potential down side but whether or not you can find a couple of keepers with less downside (depending how many forwards your taking). Dusty could be one. Sam Gray could be one. Dollhouse maybe. Can't think of any others that aren't at least as much downside as Hall.
Swallow and Jaeger are a way off right? They could have more setbacks. Other Suns mids could get injured. Hall could step up and cement his claims to be a front line midfielder ahead of some off those others. Lonergan might lose midfield minutes before Hall. Signs seem to show Hall will start well. If things change later in the season deal with it then.

If even a few these midpricers work out and become keepers then what's the worst that happens with Hall? Ideally for me he becomes a keeper which frees up someone averaging 85-90 (a hopefully fit Wells maybe) to float between F7 and M9 as needed later in the season. With Essendon looking like being an extra bye for teams this year (sorry FBD), we are going to need to be flexible and covering players more than usual. I don't want to have an over reliance on rookies for that.

That ended up way off topic.
Hall good. Essendon bad. Vote Quimby.

 

[Lowrider]

Little worried about Hall all of a sudden, was thinking Swallow won't be back for a while O'Meara the same but just started to realize Ablett, Prestia & Lonergan, still have to come into that mid field & it's not like MIller, Rischitelli & Hallahan aren't going to spend some time in there.

I think Hall has shown he's damaging enough to be in the midfield permanently, even when they're at full-strength. Swallow and O'Meara are more outside users. Ablett will start to move out of the midfield more and more with time. Prestia and Lonergan are the strong bodies and clearance specialists in there. Hall is the dash and dazzle and one of the most damaging of all of them - there's definitely room for him to move through the midfield in a full-strength team.

 

[cactus]

I'm actually considering Barlow, Sam Gray and Hall. Feels like that might just too much wishful thinking ... one of Gray and Hall feels OK ... both is probably asking for trouble.

Just love these blokes on the up ...

 

[cactus]

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If even a few these midpricers work out and become keepers then what's the worst that happens with Hall? Ideally for me he becomes a keeper which frees up someone averaging 85-90 (a hopefully fit Wells maybe) to float between F7 and M9 as needed later in the season. With Essendon looking like being an extra bye for teams this year (sorry FBD), we are going to need to be flexible and covering players more than usual. I don't want to have an over reliance on rookies for that.

That ended up way off topic.
Hall good. Essendon bad. Vote Quimby.

Well maybe more realisticallt just say Hall averages at keeper level for the first part of the season til the other mids come back and then drops off a bit - he's got MID/FWD so no reason he couldn't become the bench cover. You'd still have got pretty good value for you 420K outlay.

 

[doddy2731]

With Essendon looking like being an extra bye for teams this year.

So glad the Dees have been replaced.

 

[Benj]

Thoughts on Leuey as a Fwd option? His price is so tempting and he's clearly capable of averaging 95+ if he can stay on the park. IF! Obvs prone to injury though. I know he had a good VFL hit out. Is there any word on his pre-season overall? Also, he'd have to be my F5 or F6 which would mean finding cash to upgrade from Kennedy/Menadue. Thoughts?

 

[cactus]

Thoughts on Leuey as a Fwd option? His price is so tempting and he's clearly capable of averaging 95+ if he can stay on the park. IF! Obvs prone to injury though. I know he had a good VFL hit out. Is there any word on his pre-season overall? Also, he'd have to be my F5 or F6 which would mean finding cash to upgrade from Kennedy/Menadue. Thoughts?

My thoughts are do you really want to miss out on Kennedy or Menadue - I guess neither are must haves - but both should make good cash.
It is not out of the question that Luey could work as a pick but I don't think the odds would be on your side.

 

[doddy2731]

My thoughts are do you really want to miss out on Kennedy or Menadue - I guess neither are must haves - but both should make good cash.
It is not out of the question that Luey could work as a pick but I don't think the odds would be on your side.

I can definately see Kennedy averaging around the same as Leuy, cheaper and with good JS. So if it's about making cash the 2 rooks are the way to go.
Plus I couldn't get Luey, plus i'm still aplying cream to the burn that Bellchamber gave me last year.