Rucks 2016

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@Lowrider Martin doesnt add up to 100%
6+11+1 ≠ 20

@Steve Gawn doesnt add up to 100%
3+4+4 ≠ 13

 

[Rupert]

I'd be happy picking either - Martin's experience and reliability offset by Gawn's price and probable improvement.
Having said that, although I had Gawn last year and was happy with him I am going with Stef.
Why? His scores when sole ruck:
90, 140, 125, 135, 112, 119, 108, 84, 159 = 119 av. (That includes rnd.18 when Leuey had 6HO - his last game for the year - to Stef's 38.)

But then again, Gawn wasn't always the sole ruck last year, either.
I'm not sure stat.s are that useful after a while. It may come down to gut feel and personal preference.

Sorry @Dino - can't see how you got the 126 av. Unless it was his DT for those 8 games?

 

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Didnt Gawn score big in his first couple of games last year playing FF?

 

[Rupert]

Didnt Gawn score big in his first couple of games last year playing FF?

Nah, he was always in the ruck in 2015.
I checked the stat.s to make sure my memory was correct and his HO tell the story: 31,39,44,27,58,,,,

 

[Prospector]

Gawn is all over the shop like a mad womans breakfast.

... and his floor is filthy!

 

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Gawn has played 13, 9 and 13 games in the last 3 seasons and missed the whole 2012 season.

 

[doddy2731]

I'll be picking Gawn just because I'm scared of him. That beautiful big bearded bastard!

 

[Tevez17]

Gawn has played 13, 9 and 13 games in the last 3 seasons and missed the whole 2012 season.

That wasn't all injury though was it? Some was just form from a slow maturing big bloke, got himself into the team last season and played R10 to R23 straight.

 

[Tono]

Gawn has played 13, 9 and 13 games in the last 3 seasons and missed the whole 2012 season.

Nic Nat's record wasn't much better and he turned out ok.

He's strung 13 in a row and had a full preseason, can't ignore the poor history but he's been durable of late

 

[doddy2731]

Word from the club also saying that Gawn has really improved on his endurance so will be even more mobile this season.

 

[Tevez17]

Seen quite a few teams with Martin/Gawn banking to make up the Goldy difference elsewhere.

 

[cactus]

Seen quite a few teams with Martin/Gawn banking to make up the Goldy difference elsewhere.

Not sure Goldy is the over priced player to bet against. If you need to save money bet against Shaw. Bet against Joey. Bet against Lids. Prefer to overpay for Goldy if you're going to over pay for anyone ...

 

[Lowrider]

Not sure Goldy is the over priced player to bet against. If you need to save money bet against Shaw. Bet against Joey. Bet against Lids. Prefer to overpay for Goldy if you're going to over pay for anyone ...

Agree 100%.

I'll still betting against him though

 

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I'm still suffering PTSD after swapping out Goldy for Maric literally 1 minute before the R1 bounce. Not making that mistake again.

 

[jester5au]

Steve, I think you're looking at AF stats and not SC stats. Stef is clearly an AF gun while Gawn is more of a SC beast.

If you change it to SC stats:
2015 stats:
Martin : 20 games, 6 scores over 120 (30% of games), 11 games over 100 (55%), 1 scores of 76 or under from 20 games (5%).

Gawn: 13 games, 2 games over 120 (15%) 8 games over 100 (62%), 3 scores of 75 or under from 13 games (23%).

So while a lot doesn't change, a big thing is 100+ games Gawn actually has a better strike-rate. With his first full preseason for a while, you'd think those low games will disappear and a good chunk of those 100+ will turn into 120+.

As I mentioned above. Gawn seems to be a champion data love child

 

[jester5au]

Not sure Goldy is the over priced player to bet against. If you need to save money bet against Shaw. Bet against Joey. Bet against Lids. Prefer to overpay for Goldy if you're going to over pay for anyone ...

Bet against shaw with who would be as good topic

 

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Heater is still the only man to have a real affect on how fantasy is played with the reverse trades 'Heath Shaw" button

 

[smirski]

Gawn is probally the perfect player to bet against Goldy with
However
- Goldstein averaged 128 last year which will most likely drop to around 110-120,Gawn will most likely average around 105-115
- Goldstein is a whopping 145k more to spend
- Gawn has less chance of playing 20+ games

At this point I feel like the approach should be to have Goldy as your number one choice until you need that 145k for someone that you cant fit in otherwise.

 

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Gawn is probally the perfect player to bet against Goldy with
However
- Goldstein averaged 128 last year which will most likely drop to around 110-120,Gawn will most likely average around 105-115
- Goldstein is a whopping 145k more to spend
- Gawn has less chance of playing 20+ games

At this point I feel like the approach should be to have Goldy as your number one choice until you need that 145k for someone that you cant fit in otherwise.

If you start with Gawn and Martin then will you waste the trade if you upgrade to Goldy when he bottoms out?
Will Gawn play a full year? I guess you can ask that question about any player though

 

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I'm really hoping Currie monsters it in Perth tomorrow and finds a way into the best 22. I m so keen to have him at R2 with Grimley as swing cover.