2017 Forward Primos

Tevez17

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Dahl was first picked for me but have been thinking about not starting with him as his ceiling is massive more a consistent type my only real reservation with not going with him is that he's a little under-priced because of his injury last season.
 

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Dahldog, JaxDog or CalebDog?

I might take one, but I feel the others will always be ready to take over given any drop in form or injury!

All you Doggie fans, this is your opportunity to wax lyrical on the skills in your team!

Wiggidy whack! You down with that!!
 

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Wiggidy whack! You down with that!!
Bow wow wow yippy yo yippy yay...

I think there's a reason we dont rap on these forums.

For what its worth I think Dahl is a lock for a top 2 forward and Macrae isn't far behind. Starting them both at this stage.
 

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Now this fella isn't coming in as a premo, but has the premo history and I haven't seen any love for this guy but I am pretty keen.
He is priced at around 67, he hasn't averaged any lower than 77 for 8 years, and is the Captain of the Hawks.
Jarryd Roughead has averaged higher than 95 in his last 5 seasons, with a top of 103 in 2012 and 96 in 2015.
Yes he hasn't played for a year, but he will want to prove that he still has it, and being captain will want to lead by example, also he will most likely pinch hit in the Ruck and will kick goals.
Really not to much not to like, could be a great F5-6 by years end, must be considered. If you are considering brining in players that have an injury history, this fella should be considered too.

2008 - 22 games - 85 avg
2009 - 19 games - 79 avg
2010 - 22 games - 77 avg
2011 - 11 games - 101 avg
2012 - 20 games - 103 avg
2013 - 22 games - 98 avg
2014 - 20 games - 95 avg
2015 - 20 games - 96 avg

30 years old and @$373k there is plenty to like.
 

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Now this fella isn't coming in as a premo, but has the premo history and I haven't seen any love for this guy but I am pretty keen.
He is priced at around 67, he hasn't averaged any lower than 77 for 8 years, and is the Captain of the Hawks.
Jarryd Roughead has averaged higher than 95 in his last 5 seasons, with a top of 103 in 2012 and 96 in 2015.
Yes he hasn't played for a year, but he will want to prove that he still has it, and being captain will want to lead by example, also he will most likely pinch hit in the Ruck and will kick goals.
Really not to much not to like, could be a great F5-6 by years end, must be considered. If you are considering brining in players that have an injury history, this fella should be considered too.

2008 - 22 games - 85 avg
2009 - 19 games - 79 avg
2010 - 22 games - 77 avg
2011 - 11 games - 101 avg
2012 - 20 games - 103 avg
2013 - 22 games - 98 avg
2014 - 20 games - 95 avg
2015 - 20 games - 96 avg

30 years old and @$373k there is plenty to like.
Yep. Not currently in active consideration for me just because I think it is very hard to quantify the effects of his treatment on his constitution. Full disclosure - I'm an oncology nurse. If Roughy was treated with the more traditional chemotherapy agents I reckon I'd be against selecting him in SuperCoach because the fatigue can still be a factor a fair while after treatment finishes. The unknowns are that he was apparently treated with the newer immunotherapy agents which don't have quite the side effect profile as chemo (and also because they are new we've never had the opportunity that I'm aware of to see an athlete come back to competition after this kind of treatment). Of course Roughy will have had a great rehab regime something that unfortunately not all cancer patients get so that is a factor in his favour from a SC point of view. The fact he's been named captain is a great show of confidence from the club and that makes me a bit more likely to select him. But the bottom line is I think for me to take him in SC I'll need to see a strong line of form in the preseason.

SC aside he is a great story of hope for people battling this devestating illness. I hope his recovery continues and he goes on to many bigger and better things in life.
 

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Now this fella isn't coming in as a premo, but has the premo history and I haven't seen any love for this guy but I am pretty keen.
He is priced at around 67, he hasn't averaged any lower than 77 for 8 years, and is the Captain of the Hawks.
Jarryd Roughead has averaged higher than 95 in his last 5 seasons, with a top of 103 in 2012 and 96 in 2015.
Yes he hasn't played for a year, but he will want to prove that he still has it, and being captain will want to lead by example, also he will most likely pinch hit in the Ruck and will kick goals.
Really not to much not to like, could be a great F5-6 by years end, must be considered. If you are considering brining in players that have an injury history, this fella should be considered too.

2008 - 22 games - 85 avg
2009 - 19 games - 79 avg
2010 - 22 games - 77 avg
2011 - 11 games - 101 avg
2012 - 20 games - 103 avg
2013 - 22 games - 98 avg
2014 - 20 games - 95 avg
2015 - 20 games - 96 avg

30 years old and @$373k there is plenty to like.

Due to his illness, age and the fact he's a kpp he hasn't been under consideration for me. In addition his scoring history isn't high enough to be regarded as premo in my opinion. If he was about $100k cheaper I would be much more interested.

I can understand his appeal and I have seen a lot of love for him on other sites but at this stage he wont be in my starting team.
 
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Now this fella isn't coming in as a premo, but has the premo history and I haven't seen any love for this guy but I am pretty keen.

im keen. In his higher averaging years though, i think he played more of a swing man role/ruck. Maybe this year he will just sit full forward with vickory most likely playing more ruck. i feel like if he sits full forward it will impact his scoring, that is my only concern.
 

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Rough has attended a high # of center bounces over the past couple of years. Despite his size, he doesn't really play like a kpf at all. Plays plenty in the mids, is good at ground level and an excellent tackler. He's a watch in the PS and a definite possible selection.
 

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Rough has attended a high # of center bounces over the past couple of years. Despite his size, he doesn't really play like a kpf at all. Plays plenty in the mids, is good at ground level and an excellent tackler. He's a watch in the PS and a definite possible selection.

I'm pretty surprised there's not to much chat about him, he wouldn't be playing if he wasn't fit and ready.
 

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Due to his illness, age and the fact he's a kpp he hasn't been under consideration for me. In addition his scoring history isn't high enough to be regarded as premo in my opinion. If he was about $100k cheaper I would be much more interested.

I can understand his appeal and I have seen a lot of love for him on other sites but at this stage he wont be in my starting team.


He's certainly right on the edge for me, has 5 year average of 99.18 & 3 year average of 96.9 which is the equivalent of 6th & 9th highest forward last season, that's keeper territory at 397.1K & from the start, his injury & age are somewhat alleviated by a super impressive 82/86 games over the 4 years previous & I believe he was rested in a couple of those game missed too.
 

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Rough has attended a high # of center bounces over the past couple of years. Despite his size, he doesn't really play like a kpf at all. Plays plenty in the mids, is good at ground level and an excellent tackler. He's a watch in the PS and a definite possible selection.
In the early years, when he and buddy were the twin towels, he was classed as a B/F!
 

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Saints supporters Haven't seen much chatter around about Koby Stevens, what's your thoughts on what role he'll play and if he'll be in best 22?
Guess we'll also know more when they play their intra club on the 16th. I don't know why but he's really interesting me and has been in a couple of my drafts so far!
 

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Injury history aside I do think Caddy has an extremely fantasy friendly set of skills, Contested ball, tackles & I50s,
Obviously he's been talked about a lot already but one thing I do think has been missed is in 2015 he had some outstanding games and some real awful 30-40pt games, 2016 despite only playing a bit part role in midfield which saw his average drop he managed to actually improve his overall consistency in games.
 

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Injury history aside I do think Caddy has an extremely fantasy friendly set of skills, Contested ball, tackles & I50s,
Obviously he's been talked about a lot already but one thing I do think has been missed is in 2015 he had some outstanding games and some real awful 30-40pt games, 2016 despite only playing a bit part role in midfield which saw his average drop he managed to actually improve his overall consistency in games.

As of right now he's in my team, and I'll throw a couple more reasons out there as to why. Firstly, his bye round 12 is very handy. Plus, it also looks like they'll be resting him in the forward line, so his TOG should be high...something to look for in your midfielders (even though he's named a FWD as well) since the interchange rules changed last year. I'll be watching his role during the JLT, and if he plays primarily midfield while resting forward I'll probably be starting him.
 

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Saints supporters Haven't seen much chatter around about Koby Stevens, what's your thoughts on what role he'll play and if he'll be in best 22?
Guess we'll also know more when they play their intra club on the 16th. I don't know why but he's really interesting me and has been in a couple of my drafts so far!
I think Richo is going down the same path as Beveridge is with the Doggies - a reasonably settled back-line with a fluid mid-fwd group of up to 13 players rotating fwd pocket-> hff->wing-> in the guts. Stevens is likely to be one of these.
None of these players spend all their time on ball. Last year Bontompelli spent the most time as a mid of all the WBD players and he only spent 70% time there.
It helps that Stevens is classed as a mid-fwd and I do think he is best 22 but even so...........
 

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Well I'm a saints man so don't listen to much to me but Riewoldt on a wing locking him into my forward line
 

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Well I'm a saints man so don't listen to much to me but Riewoldt on a wing locking him into my forward line
All of those games at Etihad early (something like 12 out of the first 16) make him a very tempting option.
 
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Seppo

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I'm tempted but sharing a bye round with Dollhouse and McCrae makes him a bit tricky.
I'm starting to waver on Macrae...his kick to handball ratio keeps dropping each year and his contested possession numbers aren't very good (only about 1/3 of his possessions were contested last year, I think). I'm just not sure he's a must start playing in a Bulldogs team that's so loaded with midfielders, especially in one where Lachie Hunter gets all of the cheap ball on a wing. He's been in my teams from the start, but now I'm leaning towards him being a post-bye upgrade. I do like the Doggies schedule post-bye.
 
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I'm starting to waver on Macrae...his kick to handball ratio keeps dropping each year and his contested possession numbers aren't very good (only about 1/3 of his possessions were contested last year, I think). I'm just not sure he's a must start playing in a Bulldogs team that's so loaded with midfielders, especially in one where Lachie Hunter gets all of the cheap ball on a wing. He's been in my teams from the start, but now I'm leaning towards him being a post-bye upgrade. I do like the Doggies schedule post-bye.
I'm not sold on Macrae.
His DT/SC ratio is always bad, so he either doesn't have an SC game or he's not loved by CD: 63.5/61.4; 104.4/100.1; 104.6/99.9; 98.8/94.1
Compare this to Dahlhaus over the same period: 70.3/79.0; 87.2/91.7; 97.6/104.5; 92.3/95.7.

For mine, Dahlhaus is the better choice.
 
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