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Valverde could be a good get as he will feature in the up-coming mountain stages as well. Mind you, I'd think he might be a bit more conservative today so that he is good to go for Quintana in the up-coming stages as well. Given that he is also a show for a podium finish, do you think he will...

Also, might be good to keep track of riders here who fall out of the race. Sometimes that info seems to take a while to update on various sources.

Looks like I am ranked 11th. Anyone think Van Avermaet is worth bringing in just for this stage and then out again?

Hard to know if it's worth bringing one or two possibilities in tonight. Given that the climb is late, I'm wondering if anyone will try to make a break early or if they wait until the climb. Costa, Barguill or Bardet could be potential contenders, but not sure of their GC standings and whether...

There are some serious problems with that site. My points have gone backwards (about half of what I should be on) and I am now ranked 149. That is surely an error.

Shit, well you wouldn't believe it, @Grater and @Rupert, but I've actually found a YouTube channel that has archived all eight of those original Sizzler commercials! Here's the first clip and you can find the rest in uploads. I wonder if anyone has archived the Alpecin commercials. There...

Actually, you're right. It was Phil Liggett and those old Sizzler ads that attracted you back in the day. I reckon the Alpecin ads last year were pretty good.

Yeah nothing updating but the mobile site is now back. If you click on individual teams it tells you and updated score - but that's a bit useless.

You are doing extremely well for someone who's initial interest in watching TDF was because of the Gabriel Gate segment at the beginning of the telecast!

Mobile site seems to be back up but the scores aren't properly updated yet. I think I am still in 6th place.

Don't forget you can also use the SBS Tour Tracker app for watching. Same coverage as on TV but handy if you want to watch from a device.

The site still hasn't uploaded properly and it's now useless on the mobile site (after initially having been very good). Although the "Top 20 Teams" list is still not updated, you can click on the teams in it from where they were after the first stage and many of them have gone backwards in...

Back in 2010 in my first year playing, I nailed a Top 20 spot overall at the end of the comp after having been in the Top 10 on and off. They had a cash prize back then, sponsored by Rabobank, for something crazy - might have been 20k. Would have been funny if I'd won it. I figure I'll be run...

Looks like the mobile site has shat itself. Can't do trades on it and it is not framing correctly on a mobile device.

It worked on League of Leagues for me. "We Love It" is my mate Lou. He sent me his team to look at but I didn't get around to it. He started to many GC riders unfortunately.

Our league is also ranked 2nd overall!

Wonder if I should make any trades for tonight? I see some teams around me have done so already. Anyone to target for tonight? Also worth keeping an eye on Stage 5 I guess.

Pretty happy with being ranked 6th overall! But annoyed tha Cimolai and Groenewegen didn't get me points but figure I'll hold them for the time being.

Maybe the trade situation needs a bit of strategising. I assume we can go harder with the 8 regular trades, such as bringing riders in for one stage and out the next, like Stage 5.

Thanks for that @doddy2731 Seems like a bit of an odd rule to me. I think they should either have the 8 trades per week or have the trade amnesties, but not both.